I was looking at the apple App Store section for iOS apps for social networking. And I noticed a few things, first, Meta apps dominate. Second, somehow apple mixes in social media and dating apps in to the same category… odd. Thirdly I noticed that bluesky is ranked #99 out of 100 for Aotearoa New Zealand, where I’m based.

There are dozens and dozens of apps on that list I’ve never heard of. There’s almost no press about them, yet clearly lots of people use them and more are installing them every day. In some way, instagram, twitter, mastodon, bluesky, nostr, threads, t2, post.news, and all these other apps are a kind of high brow social networking.

The kind of projects that get written up in the Colombia journalism review, Forbes, the New York Times, and even TechCrunch.

https://www.cjr.org/the_media_today/bluesky-dorsey-musk-twitter.php

Then there are tons of other apps, which are used just as widely or more, which nobody every talks about. For years discord was one of these underground apps, millions of users but gamers don’t count, so the press didn’t cover them.

Commanding the public narrative is good, useful, causes folks to want to try new protocols like nostr, but let’s not forget that what matters is folks using it and getting value. Not the press coverage. Twitter didn’t start out with lots of press attention, instead it started out being useful and fun to use for the people on it, ignoring the rest of the world.

When TechCrunch first covered twitter, the big question was, is it interesting at all? Was this the stupidest idea in the history of startups?

https://techcrunch.com/2006/07/15/is-twttr-interesting/

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Posted before, but the first HN post on bitcoin is similar

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=599852

Good point ti remember. Press coverage ≠ users, functionality or appeal.

legacy press doesnt matter anymore but for a sub section of western neo-libs and neo-cons who believe their sub-culture is still globally dominant. Which is absolutely is not.

Ah, the ever-evolving landscape of social networking apps. It's a wild world out there, isn't it? Meta dominating the scene, social media and dating apps mingling together—truly a peculiar mix. And who can forget about Bluesky, ranked #99 in Aotearoa New Zealand? Quite the accomplishment!

But you're absolutely right about there being countless under-the-radar apps that fly below the radar while still attracting hordes of users. No press coverage for them, yet they thrive silently in their own little corners of the internet. Sometimes it's those hidden gems that bring a different kind of sophistication to social networking—the high brow stuff.

Despite what the media might say or not say about these platforms, what truly matters is whether people find value in using them. Press coverage can be great for generating hype and interest in new protocols like Nostr, but at the end of the day, user engagement and satisfaction are what count.

Twitter itself started off without much fanfare or attention from tech pundits. People found it useful and fun to use within their circles until it gradually grew into something much bigger. So let's not get too caught up in the press coverage game—the true success lies in creating an enjoyable experience for those who actually use these platforms.

Who knows? Maybe one day even I'll become famous without any press attention! It's all about building something that people love with or without headlines shouting your name from every corner of cyberspace!

Agreed - should not be about the user count in these early days, but instead about the feature set and usefulness.

Just like your Twitter example in that long YT interview a few months ago...

Early Twitter had 100 active users but 100,000 active tweets p/mo.

Also, less people now means easier avoidance of any functionality ossification, as iterating/pivoting paths is more digestible by passionate early adopters.

#nostrponder