He does say he is God when he says they are one. There is another verse (can't remember location right now and don't have time to search) where he refers to himself as "I am" which is the name God gave Moses when Moses asked who was sending him.

When Jesus says "I and the Father are one," how can this mean anything other than that they are one God?

Reply to this note

Please Login to reply.

Discussion

1) "When Jesus says "I and the Father are one," how can this mean anything other than that they are one God?"

Jesus says that the Father is the only true God:

"you, the only true God"

not "you and me the only true God"

"Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent."

(John 17:3)

2) “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one— I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me."

(John 17:20-23)

#Christianity

Its a gigantic series with a lot of plotholes and a really string femdom.

"... he refers to himself as "I am" which is the name God gave Moses when Moses asked who was sending him."

you mean John 8:24?

"I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am he, you will indeed die in your sins.”

you should believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God

"But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name."

(John 20:31)

that is the message of the Gospel of John, if you read something else into it you are wrong

#Christianity

#Jesus

I found two articles about “I am” but there is no problem with this, Jesus is the Son of God in the Bible (John 10:36), those who claim something else don’t believe in him.

https://www.biola.edu/blogs/good-book-blog/2015/does-i-am-always-refer-to-god-in-the-gospel-of-john

https://jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/articles/what-is-the-claim-where-jesus-says-qbefore-abraham-came-into-being-i-amq-john-858

#Christianity

#JesusChrist

#Religion

Clearly neither one of us is going to convince the other.

your wildflower photos were nice