At that point we end up subjugating “value” in a denomination and that denomination becomes the algorithm. Regardless of the propagation of their popularity the entire idea that the denomination itself can then be utilized to determine worth or value of an opinion in itself is censorship by taking value from someone else and leaving them with nothing as well as no hope to return anything. It’s telling a user that “hey thanks for the sats, but you aren’t *insert the adjective* enough to receive in return

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This sounds like you have an expectation of likes in return for your efforts. Onlyzaps users have no expectations of likes at all. They’re actually expecting comments, reposts, quote posts, OR zaps.

Not at all. But just like anything with value that value can be manipulated just like an algorithm so I’m more interested in the idea of likes being useless but if a user gives sats with nothing in return that is not. It seems like a one sided incentive

If the user is giving sats, the return was the value they received from the post they gave them to.

There are no algorithms feeding content here, just chronological order, followings, hashtags, friends of friends, relay choice.

For individuals that value likes, they can keep them? But likes are in fact- useless. Only algorithms find them valuable to interpret a user and serve them content.

A comment with a 🫂 serves the same purpose as a like, and is more personal.

100% I agree with you but I think we are running in circles here not sure how else to explain it

Id like to know, what value do likes have for the person that is liked, that is not achieved by comment, repost, quote post, or zap?

The only arguments I’ve heard for likes involve their ability to satisfy the liker themselves, or their ability for the content server to move posts to a more prominent position for greater visibility.

How are likes uniquely valuable for the liked?

How about this: Say you want to approach someone at a bar. You wouldn’t walk in within the first 15 seconds and throw money down and buy them a drink. You scan the room, see if they are with anyone, see if you can even approach them. It’s the same thing with normal interaction or digital.

You can’t expect Billy Bob normal guy to show up see your post and throw sats or determine that they too provide value because it’s normal human tendency that they too have value or what they say has value. Although the likes do not mean anything the little interactions and little things go a lot longer than saying my sats show my worth. Idk if that makes sense

Sounds like you’re suggesting leaving a comment and saying hello should be the first step.

Likes don’t provide any way for billy bob normal guys value to be appreciated. But a comment does. Now the guy at the bar has a chance to appreciate billy bob, and start a conversation.

I agree but I feel like we still aren’t on the same page but that’s okay because nothing here is set in stone