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I have a fundamental conviction that film this century is basically worthless - change my mind!

I think a lot of it is that I feel mainstream tastes have gone to absolute shit and the film industry has become a sausage machine, so I don't trust reviews or success metrics..

..so I basically only ever watch films from 20th century, usually which I have seen before.

I love film - please give me hope that cinema is not dead by posting examples of great cinema from this century.

Thanks in advance!

7fqx 2y ago

I'm quite sympathetic to this lol. There's quite a few people who think this and I think you could quite happily just go through lots of great stuff from the 20th century. So I don't feel like I might be the best person to dissuade you.

I wonder if this has always been the case, albeit to a much worse degree now maybe? Like yes you have Bergman, tarkovsky, Antonioni, felini etc etc but were these 'mainstream tastes' of their time? Maybe we just sieve the past of more crap and over time the gold has staying power?

I would give The Banshees of Inisherin a try. It felt a bit like a Bergman-ish film. That might be up your street. (No idea of you like Bergman tho lol)

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Dissident Sound 2y ago

i have a fundamental conviction that nostr:npub1jhpnh7aedv85v09cpahjug5aa460xm5kjnntqn0v2yjwfmmtmenqllfgps is full of shit.

my position is that quality of film doubles every 20 years. when i watch Kubrick i am simultaneously amazed by how good it is for when it was made and also by how bad it is compared to modern films.

same for music.

https://dissidentsound.discoursehosting.net/t/how-i-develop-taste-in-music/837

Dissident Sound 2y ago

the oldest movies that i can actually recommend to anybody are Dr Stragelove ( 1964 ), Apocalypse Now ( 1979 ), Full Metal Jacket ( 1987 ) ...

to be honest i haven't really bothered watching anything older than that ...

there is just a really sharp dropoff in quality with time that makes older movies not worth my time ...

some of the more recent movies i enjoyed

Raw ( 2016 ), Aniara ( 2018 ), Hereditary ( 2018 ), Midsommar ( 2019 ), Possessor Uncut ( 2020 )

any of these is better than anything made prior to Kubrick.

pseudo~u *likes nostr already* 2y ago

Ah man.. ..i envy you if you haven't watched hitchcock

Vertigo (1958), Marnie (1964) and Psycho (1960) are incredible, give them a try.

You are not "recommending" Godfather? Deer Hunter?

Dissident Sound 2y ago

i'm not into movies like Godfather or The Departed or any of the Italian Mafia stuff. somehow not really interested in the Hitchcock stuff either. i may have seen some Hitchcock on TV as a child in Soviet Union.

like i said i dislike everything old. if anybody likes something old it is in 90% of cases either nostalgia or snobbery. it is almost never merit. but there are exceptions.

pseudo~u *likes nostr already* 2y ago

I think it is becoming possible to argue objectively that there has been a stagnation or cessation of cultural development - actually more obviously in music than film, but it's the same thing I think.

I was at a bar recently and noticed them playing "show me love" by robin s, a dance tune released in 1990. What struck me was that it did not stand out at all from the rest of the music being played - it wasn't any sort of golden-oldie.

That track was released 33 years ago. If you had done the same in 1990 you'd be playing a tune from 1957 - which would be inconceivable to happen without it being some sort of novelty or stunt. Almost all the development of modern music happened in that time - and I would argue that essentially zero further development happened since. In 1990 we had everything we see now - all the main genres and even subgenres of dance, electronic, hip hop, indie. There have been no more than minor variations.

7fqx 2y ago

Simon Reynolds argues a similar case in Retromania for music, maybe you've read already. I think he's worth a read in general tho.