Nostr Web Client

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Melvin Carvalho

Yes, nostr uses relays, which are largely a commodity. So instance admins cant effectively ban a user.

bblfish 2y ago

Ok, that makes sense. You wrote in your response on the #W3C mailing list

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2023Jul/0012.html

> However, you are co-owning your identity with your provider, and in

fact, the provider has more ownership of your identity than you do.

#Mastodon has this issue, and so does #SolidProject.

Well, it is much easier in Solid to have your own WebID profile: that is just a resource on a normal web server.

What you really need to be autonomous is what Eben Moglen called 12 years ago the #FreedomBox.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgu8NUm5Zxk

The FB just needs a Solid Web Server to be complete.

I have heard of folks such as #RedHat evangelist Jan Wildeboer, installing their own Mastodon Server, but I remember them saying it is very expensive in resources. And for some reason, with Mastodon one has to federate, and the pressure of defederation is being used to create a political unique thought.

In the blogosphere there was no need for an intermediary. Perhaps the #tag feature needs a decentralised search engine?

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Melvin Carvalho 2y ago

Very few host their own webid and are able to log in to a federated instance with PKI, like with the old FOAF+SSL

I think the Federated model was worth trying.

But a few years into it, it's demostrated major weaknesses, which essentially rely on you trusting your provider. Indeed in mastodon, your private keys are leaked to the server.

Instance owners, no matter how well meaning, will sooner or later exert their control of a user's identity.

Nostr is the only model that works, so far, if you want to own your own identity on the social web