Replying to Avatar Frank

Depends but the "vegan products" on the shelves that are full of oil and garbage, yes.

On the other hand you can make seitan from vital wheat gluten, and there's lots of ways to prepare tofu that don't suck.

Just depends on what you like, but plant-based "steak" is pretty specific, not everything needs to translate. Natural foods are better than any products they sell us.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seitan

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