You think relays won’t get that here ?

The fediverse was ruined by mass blocking of instances for political reasons .

It will happen here too

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It's all fun and games and "anti-censorship" until the pedophiles roll in. Once that happens, I bet people start innovating pretty quickly.

Even without that, I find that everyone is "anti-censorship" right up until they find something they REALLY, REALLY hate, and then they want to make an exception "just this once," and at that point there's no "anti-censorship" moral high ground to stand on.

I'm willing to bet the average bitcoinfag here is a lot more okay with censorship than they're willing to admit, even to themselves.

everyone loves some censorship, they just want it 'their' way, nostr allows us each to choose censorship our own way

Well, the relay operators get to choose it.

and we have many relays, and more will come and p2p will come, anyone can run a relay

generally now tho only clients each censor

It’s hard for a client to block a thousand spam accounts

Any retard with Python can generate a thousand keypairs in a couple seconds and spam hundreds of relays from each one

It’s easier with Iris, type in any name and start posting . It creates key for you. Spammer paradise

How exactly do we stop the Chinese boy spammers ?

well i dont see them on iris which uses webs of trust, but there is many ways we can filter, like a char filter, shared blocking, shared follows etc

nostr has not even really begun to implement moderation possibilities

Needs something quick lol . Damus users feel the pain.

I’ve never been a global guy.

More a β€˜universe πŸ›Έβ€™ guy then?

iris.to

Love it and am self-hosting it iris.poster.place

lol dont drop your key in rando sites people

But that's exactly what users are asked to do when they go to https://iris.to

iris.to is not a rando site, but you should use alby or nos2x, https://github.com/irislib/faq

> iris.to is not a rando site

It is to me...And it is to anyone else who's new and overwhelmed by the many (mostly half-baked, Iris seems to be the best so far) clients available to them, each of which wants their private key.

Thanks for the pointers on extensions, I'll check them out.

well you should start out with a temporary key and maybe not plan on it being more long term until you understand key security a bit and then maybe get a new key

#[8] is quite a nice guy so i generally would trust things he does but he has admitted to security issues with iris

people should be aware nostr content is likely forever as most stuff on the net is, learn to use nyms and other keys pls, dont make yourself a martyr

Literally any nostr app

exactly

If you aren't building your own self-custody Nostr app, are you even sovereign 😏

lol

The first NIP is written with the intent of individuals being able to implement it, so this really isn't that far off. Whether it's worth investing the time, though? I'm not convinced just yet.

nostr really needs to change its development stack to focus on tools and modules clients and relays can use, too much dev time gets wasted otherwise #[8] #[9] #[10]

How long has this existed ?

nostr? over a year? iris longer but only recently switched to nostr from gun

As long you're using more than one relay, you're immutable to most relay censorship. Unlike your Mastodon account, which resides on a single server. It would take some sort of mass consensus from all relay operators to ban a pubkey, which I doubt would ever happen. There will always be an available relay where it's operator doesn't give af about the content that passes through it.

Have you heard of #FediBlock

It has happened and will happen here

Yes, am aware. I also operate a Mastodon server.

You can host your own mastodon/misskey/soapbox server.

Relays are just servers.

nostr clients can bypass censorship, they can use any server, their id is not controlled by anyone, their content distribution go by any means including p2p