I understand but considering mutiny shut down, wallet of Satoshi also went down I think there was more to it than just reroute where you get your app...

I had already installed through obtainium. Maybe I'm ok with that risk but at the time it was enough that I couldn't recommend a normie go install phoenix and risk sats

To me that's the bar for a lightning wallet

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That's fair, because even with phoenix you'd need to know what to do if disaster struck to even do it.

For a normal person I'd just say go with Strike in the US and WoS elsewhere. Or now the Primal wallet and NWC which is just Strike anyway.