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Reverse what you're implying:

Russia: " Stop arming yourself and threatening Russia and Russian speaking Ukrainians. "

Ukraine: " No you give us back all our land and we will join NATO while training a million man army that will always be ready to terrorize you. We will get guarantees like Israel to ensure keep expanding. "

Russia: " uhh no that's insane."

Ukraine: " See Russia is evil and will invade us all of Europe and kill everyone. "

Phantom Bullfrog 7mo ago

Nice, except that "Ukraine threatening Russian speakers" is conspiracy theory, and about the arming, well I think we both know very well why Ukraine wants to arm itself

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Chris Krause 7mo ago

No it's not. It happened since the illegal coup d'etat in 2014.

Phantom Bullfrog 7mo ago

The coup is conspiracy theory too. People sometimes get mad and want a politician gone, not every popular rebellion needs to have the CIA or something behind it you know

Chris Krause 7mo ago

Dude, calling anything that doesn't fit into your worldview a "conspiracy theory" doesn't change reality.

Phantom Bullfrog 7mo ago

Agreed, problem is "fantastic claims require fantastic evidences", I'm yet to see any minimally decent evidence for any of Russia's claims

Chris Krause 7mo ago

Phantom Bullfrog 7mo ago

Alrighty, mute me if you must, have a great day 👍

Implausible Deniability 7mo ago

Somethibg like 20k deaths recorded by and fought by the people of donbass is the proof. They literally formed an autonomous zone and army to stop the Kiev terrorizing since 2014.

Phantom Bullfrog 7mo ago

Sure sure, totally happened...

Btw, did you see Russia's memorandum for "peace"? Take a look, it literally destroys 100% of Russia's pro peace narrative. Spoiler: it demands that Ukraine ban nationalist parties and adopt Russian as national language, it's the literal definition of imperialism, wanna defend them still?