"you want software that doesn’t have glaring UI issues. Nostr can’t be that!”

There’s no reason why there has to be completely incoherent user interfaces, or majorly promoted clients asking people to open up terminals to get them running. This is solvable if people accept that it should be solved.

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I don’t know of any client that asks you to open a terminal. Like I said, disable zaps and it won’t matter. Try it for yourself, clone jumble, remove zaps and try to get people to come and stay. Won’t happen.

Copying and pasting myself from upthread:

> Gossip is listed as a suggested client on every single page when I do a web search for “Nostr client”. On Mac, to get it working, you have to read the documentation and then open up a Terminal and paste a command from the documentation. Virtually zero people are going to do this. The developer is openly hostile to the suggestion that a minor build tweak to make it conform with the install process for other unsigned apps on Mac is prudent. And yet this is, by search, one of the most prominently featured clients to new eyeballs.

That’s not a UI issue lol … just dont use gossip. I haven’t used it once

This is exactly like fat Linux nerds in 1995 that were like, “your sound doesn’t work because you are still using Obongo. You need to install Blumpkin!” As if the solution to a giant ecosystem problem was to try installing another distro.

If normal people are given a large list of clients they are not going to iterate through all of them. Maybe they’ll try one. If 3 of them are bad, they are likely never going to use Nostr ever again.

There are a million and a half ways to onboard to nostr. You’re referring to your personal experience which won’t be everyone’s personal experience. You can’t draw conclusions on one person’s generalization.

okay. I posted a screenshot upthread of a glaring issue in a client I am currently using because it is the least bad on Mac desktop and my networking situation. Navigation icons over the DM input field that makes seeing what you are typing impossible. And this is the least bad thing! It’s better than Damus!

Everything seems halfassed to me. I hear a lot of people being like “Nostr is still being actively developed” but people make sexy apps with nice feel in a matter of months. It’s been years now. But you are acting like all these problems are nonexistent, and condescending to the concerns of normal people about it. It is completely not true. I love Nostr and the protocol is good, but the experience for normal people is currently hot garbage. I would like it to be better, but saying “they’re not using the right client” is basically saying “Nostr is only for crypto nerds or people whose time has no value.”

Where is it?

If there’s a glaring issue it’s likely that there are limitations you’re not aware of. I’m happy to take a look if you point out on a non-garbage client 🤣

I just woke up and I’m super busy and typing short responses on mobile. Wish I could write a more thoughtful response - don’t mean to be condescending.

What are glaring UI issues here besides zaps? Name them.