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What do you think of going full p2p with iroh instead of using relays? (Assuming it works.)

I mean, if the idea is to ditch Nostr to something more idealistic and more "correct" than that path should at least be considered. Relays were the Nostr compromise to make things "work" because p2p has never worked in practice (in theory I also think it doesn't work), but the iroh people swear it works now, so who knows.

One problem with pure p2p is that people have to keep devices online, but that can be solved with adhoc "relays" which are actually just nodes -- you eliminate the distinction between clients and relays and just query nodes for stuff, people can nominate other nodes (identified by public keys just like their own devices) to host their stuff while they're offline.

Another problem with pure p2p is that you don't get discovery of new content, you only fetch stuff from people you already know -- but again here we can defer to these adhoc relays to curate and host content from others and you can call these to download stuff and expect to get back quality content from people you don't know, and maybe you'll start following these people.

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Matt Lorentz 5mo ago

SSB without the hash chain? I'm down.

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Matt Lorentz 5mo ago

Surely someone has built this, right? Why haven't I built this? 🤔 questioning everything.

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