Nostr Web Client

Some of the Nostr apps that already exist are pretty amazing- they just need to be presented the right way to the right people. And this involves active effort to reach out to people and doing some polishing to turn them into beautiful products - be it design or clarity in UX or presentation (landing page to explain things and to sell to audiences)

roya ୨୧ 6mo ago

i would love to help any devs who want some advice from someone who was raised on the internet (me), and knows what attracts the internet normies to their apps…. dms always open.

i have a lot of friends who left nostr instantly bc the ux was just too technical for the average user. Primal’s greatest trait is its ability to mock ux’s & design of social media that average users already have been using. it’s the only one i recommend to be frank #notanadjustthesadhonesttruth

Nostr needs the youth, the youth needs nostr. The kids are yearning for freedom but just don’t understand dev speak.

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arkinox 6mo ago

This is good to know 👍

tanel 6mo ago

noted

tanel 6mo ago

tbh should just pop up mobbin and go through the onboarding of social media apps that are popular amongst the youth

HoloKat 6mo ago

Yeah or install a few yourself and save on the membership fee

tanel 6mo ago

yeah fair

tanel 6mo ago

curious how many of the nostr clients onboarding supports languages other than english

HoloKat 6mo ago

Some do I think but probably not many

tanel 6mo ago

sounds like a case study i should look into

roya ୨୧ 6mo ago

dms are always open to legends

roya ୨୧ 6mo ago

like u 🫡, i know nothing about coding be warned, i just know what the people like 😂

Danny Sargordan 6mo ago

True

Marc 6mo ago

Agreed. We need to make Cryptography fun for kids like in the movie, A Christmas Story because UX is nice, but the cryptography is the important part imo.

7fqx 6mo ago

I really wouldn't recommend primal to people who aren't looking for a bitcointwitter2 experience. If you go by their side panels and user recommendations you are going to have a very rough time and leave very quickly.

roya ୨୧ 6mo ago

none of my friends are bitcoiners though, that was also a reason they’d leave 😭

average user= not a bitcoiner, not a dev, someone who touches grass and is oblivious to tech

Creature 6mo ago

YES! We also need non-bitcoin content. If I hear the words "bitcoin" and "fiat" one more time...

roya ୨୧ 6mo ago

i try my best to post my everyday life here, photos of friends, family, food, nature, music.

those simple actions of posting your life (fuck an opsec) will make nostr not look like it’s for dorks only

Creature 6mo ago

Yes!

hsoc 6mo ago

Nostr, if you filter posts about how good nostr is and Bitcoin:

Creature 6mo ago

Accurate

Pegah 6mo ago

You know, most people prefer to join places where there's already a big audience to hear them. Very few are willing to join a space they have to help build. And that's why many leave quickly because not everyone wants to be part of the growth process.

Jose Sammut 6mo ago

But if you use the other social medias, you still need to grow your audience to be heard..

I think communities is the word.

Because if you join and have a # introductions post, people will interact immediately. And if you join for Bitcoin then you have a lot of people to interact with.

But there are no communities for other interests. Just communities of friends. And you need shared interests to create friends.

So it becomes a chicken and egg situation. Maybe if someone with an established following joins nostr instead of sending their followers to discord that would work.

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 6mo ago

this is a big problem. two of my favourite things are trapped in the youtube and telegram silos. both of them would benefit from a freer flow of discussion, i think, but i also think that moderation and curation tools are lacking

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 6mo ago

"needing to be heard" is the business of media personalities who have a mechanism for subscription or monetization.

idk why people don't get it that this does not exist on nostr. it's just a messaging protocol. it's not a company selling your data to advertisers to trade with influencers who bring eyes to see the ads.

Jose Sammut 6mo ago

I don't need to use social media so there's no NEED.

But I do WANT people to see and interact with my posts. Nothing to do with monetizing.

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 6mo ago

but who is going to store the data, and how will they pay for that?

Jose Sammut 6mo ago

I would pay if it improved (or enabled) my experience.

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 6mo ago

you are at least one step ahead of most people

Jose Sammut 6mo ago

A lot of people pay for x or facebook, or donate to streamers. I don't agree..

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 6mo ago

yeah, unsurprising since it actually costs something to do all this communication. the services have been largely paid for by advertisers, and apparently nobody wants to watch ads. so you gotta pay. this is my main gripe with the mentality of nostr people. an unfortunate majority of them are in this limbo where they are used to being able to send messages to get stored places but they don't want to have their messages manipulated, filtered or augmented with advertising.

you can't have property without costs. being able to store messages somewhere costs someone and unless your messages benefit them and increase their revenue, they are eventually going to put paywalls up

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 6mo ago

but you won't think about the fact that the communication you are already using is costing someone to implement. that's a problem.

Jose Sammut 6mo ago

They're not charging me, that's on them really...

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 6mo ago

hahah, but when they say "no pay no send messages" then what?

Jose Sammut 6mo ago

I pay

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 6mo ago

that's the thing that is dawning on the users of the internet these days. but the second and third order consequences of this are still opaque

Hook 🪝 6mo ago

You're really right