Nostr Web Client

Monero is designed to protect the sender's info from the receiver, but unfortunately it uses a crackable, unencrypted "1 out of 15" technique. It also makes no attempt to hide the receiver's info from the sender; in fact, the receiver's pubkey is published in plaintext for all to see.

By contrast, lightning is designed to protect the sender's info from the receiver by (1) actually encrypting it, (2) using onion routing, and (3) not publishing anything.

The same techniques also protect the receiver's info from the sender, plus lightning's design makes rendezvous routing easy. This technique lets the receiver easily give the sender an invoice with a decoy pubkey in it, so that even if they DO find the node associated with that pubkey, it's the wrong person's pubkey.

Hanshan 7mo ago

in what way is it "crackable?"

How about I'll pick a transaction and you'll "crack" the true spend?

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Super Testnet 7mo ago

> in what way is it "crackable"?

I answer in this post:

nostr:nevent1qqsy5qn8h2aujaakmefqdmvpzkz7m9p7yvxsj9zkurt8s6zfa95t2zcpr4mhxue69uhkummnw3ezucnfw33k76twv4ezuum0vd5kzmp0qgszrqlfgavys8g0zf8mmy79dn92ghn723wwawx49py0nqjn7jtmjagrqsqqqqqpdwyjzk

> How about I'll pick a transom and you'll "crack" the true spend?

Sure, I'll do my best! I wrote a free and open source tool for this -- you can paste any monero tx and it will try to identify the true spend: https://github.com/supertestnet/examiner

It doesn't usually find it but sometimes it does. Give me a tx and I'll try it!

Then you do my challenge, OK? The one where you pay a lightning invoice of my choice and tell me (1) the recipient's pubkey (2) the total balance held by that pubkey -- i.e. the same info I can get by paying a monero address

For future reference, here is the invoice I'd like you to pay after I've completed your challenge:

lightning:lnbc10079970p1p5rhqjdpp5wmje0gndr5cmnxwzala7jmuc3jylc33ef4kyhurgx5fdjks3rkwshp5he4v6k88ag5vmms9j7z43lc4u8apl0qd8ftdx2zqzdmtx596x60scqzdyxqrrxssp55gdlkuh6zp2mxx8sqwcz4372y7vhc757pn6rzf0y779e2k8c2yfs9qxpqysgqzl2v27xj5jzm8x45wt6kzkcnxnakmac5xy0c40y79jw6v2s43vqqcv9jralfaz7dl6nxkp0r8qxm7rwppydrfm2spmtu3f24thk5nycq9a9upl