we had markets everywhere in the world before there was state issued ID. your premise is faulty and the point I asked you to engage with is that the urge to safety and security and comfort is a standard social engineering lever. It is used as I described above. You can deny that it happens or agree that it does but ignoring it means you are not here to have a conversation. Dont know what your purpose is in communicating at all if you just want to broadcast and not engage.