Pro/Con of “Private” Email

Protonmail

Pro: Allows Tor, Many use it so network effect of proton to proton encryption

Con: Huge increases in data handoffs to governments makes you question how much data they can get, some question if it’s a honeypot. Even if not, you’re potentially targeted for even being there, and they have a bad track record.

Tutanota

Pros: Better track record than Protonmail

Cons: Bans Tor and many VPNs. Severe Browser fingerprinting annoyance when signing up. They auto-delete your account if you don’t login for 6 months, but you can get around this by adding 2-factor authentication TOTP with KeePass XC

Skiff

Pro: Fast sign-ups, very easy to get a burner account

Con: They use Cloudflare. Cloudflare intercepts all traffic, so 0% private. This company is essentially propaganda.

Mail in a Box (software)

This is self-hosting using open source software on a VPS

Pro: More private than any provider. It does most of the setup work for you

Con: Requires $5 to 15 a month on a VPS (but can be split among friends). VPS provider can still access emails by snapshots of memory. Unless you put it in a docker container, you can’t do anything else on the VPS

Luke Smith Scripts (software)

Pro: Fast way to get an email VPS setup

Con: Requires it to be put directly on the server, which can mess up OTHER things you got going on there, like using aaPanel

aaPanel (software)

Pro: Easy to manage a lot of services going on, including WordPress or databases with your email

Con: Not worth setting up this whole thing up for JUST email.

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Proton, bad track record because of the French activist incident?

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Discussion

https://proton.me/legal/privacy

I think for most use cases their security is pretty good. The transparency seems to show a fairly proportional increase in accommodation of requests as the user base has expanded. Almost anything is better than running unencrypted traffic through your ISP directly.

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Protonmail has your private keys😃

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Due to limitations of the SMTP protocol, we have access to the following email metadata: sender and recipient email addresses, the IP address incoming messages originated from, attachment name, message subject, and message sent and received times. We do NOT have access to encrypted message content, but unencrypted messages sent from external providers to your Account, or from Proton Mail to external unencrypted email services, are scanned for spam and viruses to pursue the legitimate interest of protecting the integrity of our Services and users. Such inbound messages are scanned for spam in memory, and then encrypted and written to disk.

Not perfect. In the case of the disclosure of information about the French activist, Proton stated that if he had used the Proton VPN in conjunction with the email service there would have been no viable information to disclose. Improper use of the technology isn’t the fault of the provider necessarily, but having the necessary technology to attain the privacy claims of the system integrated together would be a logical, but rarely utilized approach to product development.