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When you build a system that allows central control and censorship then the state will use those affordances if they feel the need. Bluesky’s blocked some Turkish accounts by order of the Turkish government.

The user DID keys are still active but their associated domain name / user names are not and the identities at blocked by bluesky’s moderation system that Turkish users can’t opt out of.

https://bsky.app/profile/nekorug.moe/post/3lmwgtwfggs2e

To escape this censorship you need to both use a Bluesky client that doesn’t opt in to the company’s obligatory moderation and also some relay and appviews which refuse to comply with Turkish censorship orders.

jack 8mo ago

yeah, since their moderation is just a labeller that you can seemingly opt out of (although the official app collects your location to know what labels to apply) it's def interesting

anyone could fork the app, or build their own client which juts doesn't listen to this.. but then i wonder if they're gonna lead to removing posts/accounts from their AppView level? i think they have that type of control.

i hope they really do get cheaper AppViews/Relays working so people can actually host them themselves, becoming more and more important

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rabble 8mo ago

So yes and no. They removed the domain name user names at bsky.social so while the users have their keys and could migrate to a different PDS, I don’t think they’re able to publish on bluesky hardware. I’m also not sure if bluesky the company has blocked content from those DID’s (users) on the relays and appviews. If they didn’t block, they probably don’t want to be public about it because Turkey would just come back and demand that they do it.

jack 8mo ago

ah interesting

no, i'm fairly sure they don't do complete blocks like that at the protocol level unless it's spam that's like a DDoS level (although not sure what counts as that)

yeah they def won't get too technical for them, if the Turkish gov find out it's still technically up, who knows what will happen lol

also, I wasn't a user of Twitter from the early days to ~2021 (it fascinates me, but let's just say twitter is older than me!) - but how did Twitter do this with 3rd party apps at the time? i never used them (since elon killed them since), but i assume Twitter could only shadowban specific users in the official app, since otherwise it's just API calls? unless a full account take down ofc