> If you give up your own discernment to any system you are at its mercy.

That said, something can be learnt from all you just need to be the filter on your own morality and perspwctives.

Sorry, but that's not how it works. Christianity claims to be the source of morality; followers claim that if you don't believe "then why would you stop yourself from doing bad things". If your own filter comes first then what's religion's role?

There are plenty of bad actions taken *in name of religion*. If these people preferred morality over their religion, this wouldn't happen.

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All religions claim to be the source of morality for its followers. You seem to be stuck on one religion.

Again your point expands with historical records to all religions.

Now remove religion and and replace it with any other form of governance / control.

Same problems you point out exist in all systems, because of the inherent flaws/ego/desires of humans.

There is no perfect system, but each has qualities you can embody if they align to you.

I switch to 'religion' as term when I move away from specifically Christianity, so we agree on that.

Not all goals are the same for all forms of control.

Ah, that's what bugs me. The point is, different systems approach things, such as morality, differently. Religion claims to have the answer, but also (often) claims that it is needed for this answer, i.e. "if not for religion where would you get your x", e.g. morals. (And I don't feel like looking up and listing outdated/immoral practices that are prescribed.) It takes an ownership and authority based on false claims.

But the thing is, you also mention for yourself now that you think about it and adapt it for yourself. So the morality is there, but also not in a reliable/immutable form, such that it requires adaptation. And how it's adapted changes per person. Adaptations, even to the point that things aren't even supposed to be taken literally.

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Actually, my brain was still putting things in order, and basically I could've also pointed out: religion claims to be *the* authority, dismissing all other sources. ...etc...

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But so does communism.....😉

I have no strong opinion about communism either way. I don't know that much about it.

However, I'm fairly sure that communism takes control over a particular concern of morality: the equal treatment. (And prly "treatment" is an inaccurately chosen word, but you get my drift.) And then it only seems to work (well) in theory.