there is also too many places that have empty houses, whole towns that used to have thousands of people in them but now only have like 50. but people want to *move to* a nice place and a place full of empty houses is not a nice place until nice people move to it, so they pass over millions of options that would work.

in fact the people in such towns who own the property basically gave up trying to sell and you can't even find out about them without going there and asking the skeleton staff at the local courthouse (or more often, regional) to even find out who owns it and then who wants to sell, it's a lot of rigmerole.

i personally very much like the idea but i don't mind the idea of having many empty houses around me. there is some 160 villages like this in bulgaria, and a few, that people have moved into. you get the nice old house, usually, and have to spend a lot on getting it set up because, for example, it is often the case that the municipal water is not being maintained, and so on and so forth.

but yes, a lot of people want out of the big cities. it has to be a life decision so it's only gonna be smatterings of people going and getting a small acerage property and homesteading that will repopulate the areas that have emptied out because of industry moving away. once a few of these kind of people show up there can be a bigger movement, but someone has to go out to the frontier first even when it's mostly all ready to use and sitting idle.

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Statistically, almost by definition, there will never be "a lot of people" who "want out of big cities." And it wouldn't work anyway. Not everyone can homestead for their Raw Milk.

The global trend historically is towards urbanization, except perhaps in the post-WWII period in the US, but the latter was always driven by massive incentives, regulations, and "red-lining" segregation.

However, Europe and Asia build cities that allow for urban density and effective urban transportation by default... In the US, it's the exception, and in most places it's literally illegal to build things like high-density housing and pedestrianized boulevards.

yeah, zoning laws are such bullshit, and don't even really achieve anything except making living near your work difficult.

anyhow, i always wanted to live on a farm and do farming as part of my work. not all of it, since i'm a programmer but with the internet homesteading and working at the same time is very possible.

the other thing is that the industrial produced food is so bad now that it's not just fringe anymore to want to grow your own. both vegan hippies and based bitcoiners and paleo people want to raise their own livestock and/or grow gardens for their own food supply. it's absolutely abysmal what they sell in shops now, and if you have allergies, like me, it's a torment to be stuck not being able to have a veggie patch and some chickens and goats.