Anything apparent via journalctl?

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nothing i could see, it looked like all the virtio binaries and other required binaries were installed and systemd services were running.. ..i even tried using the Arch LTS kernel

i don't use GPU passthrough, i've always used the virtio GPU within virt-manager.. ..thanks for the Claude feedback though, i will try this experiment on a different machine at some point, for now i just reinstalled Debian so i can use my main workstation in a stable state

what is your goal ?

i finally figured out the issue, all systems are a GO now

i just thought of something.. ..this works on a mini test PC just fine.. ..maybe i just need to update the firmware on my motherboard and try again

We need you, sir. 🫡