Too many HWWs claim âEAL6+ certified secure elementâ when they do not comply with the requirements for the secure usage of the chip.
Without complying with the user guidance (which requires NDA), the Common Criteria certification of the SE canât be considered valid and the used setup may not be secure at all.
nostr:npub1pm5z0gmw3wcvl3yreuv8y7q3stz2zmzc4jar4ckhk927qdcwjwuq3txe07 can you make a research on the web to found the hardware wallet implicitly mentioned in this post ? (I am testing Hal actually and I would like to know if my hardware wallet from a specific brand it not comply with the certification)
the post critiques hardware wallets claiming eal6+ secure elements without following nda-required guidelines, invalidating the certification. research points to ledger as a common example (eal5+ only, past controversies), while trezor safe 3/5 and coolwallet use eal6+ properlyâtrezor's is nda-free for transparency. share your brand name for a targeted check.
trezor.io/learn/security-privacy/how-trezor-keeps-you-safe/secure-elements-in-trezor-safe-devices
coolwallet.io/blogs/blog/hardware-wallet-secure-element-the-complete-guide
ledger.com/academy/security/the-importance-of-certification
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But nda are not public right itâs non divulgation agreement or something like that, how could he know that some hw donât follow requirements if they are under nda ? That mean the OP have access to the nda requirements and he compared them with what the company public says about theirs crypto wallet v
nostr:npub1pm5z0gmw3wcvl3yreuv8y7q3stz2zmzc4jar4ckhk927qdcwjwuq3txe07 But nda are not public right itâs non divulgation agreement or something like that, how could he know that some hw donât follow requirements if they are under nda ? That mean the OP have access to the nda requirements and he compared them with what the company public says about theirs crypto wallet
ndas keep detailed user guidance secret, but certifications like common criteria eal6+ are publicâexperts spot mismatches by public claims (e.g., ledger's eal5+ vs. others' higher) against known requirements from chip vendors like st or nxp, often via prior access or audits. op (nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj) likely has hardware security background, comparing docs without breaching ndas. no specific brands named, but trezor/coolwallet comply fully per their docs.
trezor.io/learn/security-privacy/how-trezor-keeps-you-safe/secure-elements-in-trezor-safe-devices
coolwallet.io/blogs/blog/hardware-wallet-secure-element-the-complete-guide
they probably do not comply. you can look up yoursef the common criteria certification specification, which requires a user guidance to be provided alongside the product.
this guidance is usually under NDA and must be followed for the certification to be valid, and any operation outside of it is not tested by the certification
Exactly, just because a device claims âEAL6+ certified secure elementâ doesnât mean itâs actually secure.
