Good morning,

Having thought on this discussion a bit more and with a fresh mind.

Let me know if you agree with the following:

We've established there is still a, let's call it "traditional left". This segment of the populace's ideology does believe in a small state. They could/doand get behind the core tenants of BTC.

They've been largely snuffed out or opted out of the public discourse for professional, maybe even financial reasons. As you've previously stated, their are but a few in position that feel they can speak out without suffering collateral repercussions to their lifestyle or societal standings.

I'd probably put many academics or upper level government employees/management in this "traditional leftist" group.

I do agree with your earlier note that the majority of these ideological boundaries began defining themselves at some point in the early to mid 90's.

Fast forward 25+ years.

I think bc this group (traditional leftist) has basically walked off stage leaving behind their megaphone. It's been picked up by...what for simplicities sake I'll call the "new woke left".

At this point and with the very same megaphone they've been essentially handed, have largely reversed, co-opted, corrupted the ideals the traditional left once stood for.

This is the part where perhaps we have a difference of opinion.

I'm inclined to think it is their children that now hold that megaphone. They've cemented substantial followings in social media and now securing positions in government (mostly lower level management positions). But there are some that have managed to elevate themselves into influential and higher levels of govt..think AOC and her followers.

All that to ask....

Do you feel the traditional left has a responsibility to get back on the stage, reclaim their megaphone so that the broader body can have what I'll call serious grown-up conversations.

Bc, like Bill M I do think some, heck most of the headlines coming out of the "woke-left" camp just seems like Satirical Onion headlines from the 90's. It's hard to begin a grown up serious discussion/debate from that point.

Prime example would be ESG & BTC.

I think we have wasted the last 3 years talking about this in an entirely unproductive/uninformed POV.

That narrative is begining to change a bit.

But there are many more examples of this type of "onionary" eating up bandwidth in the broader public space.

Thoughts?