Subnostr

I know how the reproductive system works, and the probability of two "beneficial" mutations happening in opposite genders at the same time in the same place such that they are able to reproduce that mutation in another generation defies all mathematical probability. DNA only comes from DNA.

"A little bit of science drives a man from God; a lot more science drives him right back."

Jimmy 2y ago

It's got nothing to do with mathematical probability, evolution is not pure chance it's the opposite of that actually. The currently accepted theory is that the DNA double helix evolved from a simpler version a self-replicating single strand RNA.

> "A little bit of science drives a man from God; a lot more science drives him right back."

Is that where the case you'd expect groups like the national academy of sciences to be the most religious not the least. Same for the most educated countries. Meanwhile the population with the least percentage of atheists: prisons.

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freeborn | ἐλεύθερος | 8r0gwg 2y ago

If chance is at the helm of reality and history, there can be no science, no math, no probability, no persistence of personhood, nothing persists and so nothing remains. But even then I'm applying logic to a realm of chance wherein logic does not and cannot exist.

Jimmy 2y ago

> If chance is at the helm of reality and history, there can be no science, no math, no probability, no persistence of personhood,...

Nonsense, lots of things might be set up by chance like the fundamental constants of nature, but that does not preclude us from discovering the laws of physics and mathematics, and from those laws, everything else.

freeborn | ἐλεύθερος | 8r0gwg 2y ago

There no laws if chance governs all.

Jimmy 2y ago

You clearly didn't understand my comment, go back and reread.

freeborn | ἐλεύθερος | 8r0gwg 2y ago

I understood it. If chance governs all, then there can be no "laws" about anything. No predictions can be made. No scientific method could be applied. It cannot be assumed that things will be tomorrow as they have been in the past.

Jimmy 2y ago

You clearly don't get it, go reread and look up the anthropic principle.

rugged.rug 2y ago

The improbable scenario in which this set of constraints developed entirely by chance, to allow what we see, is difficult to believe. As are most alternative explanations.

Jimmy 2y ago

As I've already said in other comments, evolution is NOT governed by chance.

rugged.rug 2y ago

Yea I didn't mention evolution. Would not the set of constraints on reality needed to result in what we see necessarily need to arrive by either chance or by design?

rugged.rug 2y ago

The chance part is that we find ourselves in such a condition, among infinite possible conditions. Sure, we could only yak about it here where such things are possible, but it is still improbable from here.