Also, you and I know when we refer to sugar it's the umbrella term that includes starch from vegetables & grains as well. These ding-dongs like to try to differentiate, when the body treats it all the same. My body doesn't know a whole grain bagel from a Snicker's bar from a potato from a pineapple. Unless you're some type of indigenous human on another part of the equator in a rustic area, that is.

This is all thanks to the modern bullshit paradigm / pyramid of the last 40-50 years, scarcely anyone alive knows any different. These people would prefer to think just because they got away scot-free with it, everyone else should, too. It only enables people into being victims of addiction to UPF & unnecessary "whole" foods masquerading as healthy for people who shouldn't have them (insulin resistant/TOFI, overweight, obese, or what-have-you)