Nostr Web Client

Gm,

Nostr sucks because it's mostly all chronological follow feeds without good algorithms. Good content is extremely hard to discover and will be missed most of the time.

There's a reason why every single social media service uses them - because that's what billions of users want

Only a community of bitcoiners can be so stubborn to look at our user retention rates and see their feeds go stale constantly and still believe that private keys will bail us out of inferior UX

Tell your client devs you want algorithms, they exist, they're just not implemented

Anthony Accioly 9mo ago

Reading this 10 hours later, just like I've read Vitor post on a similar topic several hours later. I have to disagree with you on this one utxo. I'm very happy with chronological feeds. Clients can use your algo relay or DVMs for algorithmic feeds. And sure, they can support it, but I'd rather they don’t impose algos on users or make it the default experience.

What I really wish is that people would hit the boost/reshare and comment buttons much more often, as well as follow tags and new npubs with fewer followers.

As for clients, I’d love to see more support for NIP-51-like features so I can create lists of my favourite users and hashtags and keep up with them in chronological order from where I left off (kinda like Nostur). This is exactly what I’m doing with Fediverse stuff + Fedilab, and it works wonders. I often read posts that are six months old and have had some of my own posts reshared months after I originally posted them.

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Juma Jim’s 9mo ago

This💯

utxo the webmaster 🧑‍💻 9mo ago

Everyone on nostr likes these feeds, that's why we're here (survivorship bias). The issue is all the people who try it and leave, which according so some stats is 90%+ of people

Anthony Accioly 9mo ago

GM utxo, I get where you're coming from. Still, IMO, growth in non-addictive social media will often look like this. Big new user waves whenever X, Meta and co inevitably do the next big nasty anti-user move, followed by a lot of churn and users "relapsing". In a way, quitting proprietary social media is like trying to quit smoking. Sure, algorithms can act as nicotine patches to help with the detox, but ultimately, they won’t keep most users around unless we make it as addictive, or more so, than the proprietary platforms.

There are already other social media apps trying to become the next hipster vaping alternative to Philip Morris / British American Tobacco. And yes, they are "winning" in terms of user retention and network effects. Still, in my book, Nostr is winning by default precisely because it isn't trying to do that.

To be a bit less philosophical: I don’t think the lack of algorithms is the only thing driving users away from Nostr. IMO, we really need to promote a culture of overindexing on sharing/boosting posts + interacting with smaller accounts + catch up functionality on clients.

Just to link both conversations together:

nostr:nevent1qqswa00gn0aggqkt2wjhj6x36xun3gkyr8z4nm6vgathp272h5u5mwcpz3mhxw309akx7cmpd35x7um58g6rsd3e9upzpm5aj708u9qc48m5w2a0stwfvzp2p4p9rdmmevts5mkweyl6mlmyqvzqqqqqqycqyshr

[bit] max⚡️ 9mo ago

Yes, absolutely agree on that. If we want to be an open and free alternative - we should be able to change and reflect our behaviour. This is the source of most of our social media issues. Lots of people want to be guided all the time instead of acting as ecucated and souveran users.