This bothers me on two fronts.

1. As I stated before I don't like the idea that relays can delete old data -- it's a kind of temporal censorship.

2. I don't like the idea that relays are a kind of personal database that allow users to squirrel away their private data. There are plenty of other options for that.

>From: jb55 at 07/30/22 09:43:19 on wss://nostr-relay.wlvs.space

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>querying kind3 helps with this a bit

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I find it's useful for building a web of trust, and seeing followers for discoverability. but yeah it's optional I guess... can't imagine using a twitter-like client without it though.

I definitely want the web of trust. So perhaps you can descibe how kind-3 serves that purpose. The way I look at it, it's no better than a file containing pubkeys and petnames that I keep on my laptop.

>From: jb55 at 07/30/22 09:54:31 on wss://relay.nostr.info

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>I find it's useful for building a web of trust, and seeing followers for discoverability. but yeah it's optional I guess... can't imagine using a twitter-like client without it though.

metadata and follows (kind 0 and 3) are not only private data. Both are vitally important to build a social network.

I understand why kind:0 is vital to a social network (although there are challenges such as the five fiatjafs).

I do not understand why kind:3 is vital. As far as I can see kind:3 is equivalent to a file on my laptop. Unless, of course, I can query your kind:3. If the latter is the case, then #[8]'s web of trust starts to make sense.

>From: Giszmo at 07/30/22 19:42:04 on wss://nostr-pub.wellorder.net

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>metadata and follows (kind 0 and 3) are not only private data. Both are vitally important to build a social network.

Of course you can query kinds:[3] of other authors:[32e1827635450ebb3c5a7d12c1f8e7b2b514439ac10a67eef3d9fd9c5c68e245].

That gives me something new to think about. Thanks!

>From: Giszmo at 07/30/22 20:10:28 on wss://relay.nostr.info

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>Of course you can query kinds:[3] of other authors:[32e1827635450ebb3c5a7d12c1f8e7b2b514439ac10a67eef3d9fd9c5c68e245].