Replying to Avatar Lyn Alden

I spoke at a big bitcoin-adjacent company this week and one of the best questions was from someone who asked what the downsides of bitcoin adoption might be.

I always do appreciate these steelman questions, the skeptical questions, the ones where we challenge ourselves. Only when we can answer those types of questions do we understand the concept that we are promoting.

So the classic example is that in modern economic literature, "deflation is bad". This, however, is only the case in a highly indebted system. Normally, deflation is good. Money appreciates, technology improves, and goods and services get cheaper over time as they should. Price of Tomorrow covers this well. My book touches on this too, etc. The "deflation is bad" meme is still alive in modern economic discourse and thus is worth countering, but I think in the bitcoin spectrum of communities, people get that deflation is fine and good.

My answer to the question was in two parts.

The first part was technological determinism. In other words, if we were to re-run humanity multiple times, there are certain rare accidents that might not replicate, and other commonalities that probably would. Much like steam engines, internal combustion engines, electricity, and nuclear power, I think a decentralized network of money is something we would eventually come across. In our case, Bitcoin came into existence as soon as the bandwidth and encryption tech allowed it to. In other universes or simulations it might look a bit different (e.g. might not be 21 million or ten minute block times exactly), but I think decentralized real-time settlement would become apparent as readily as electricity does, for any civilization that reaches this point. So ethics aside, it just is what it is. It exists, and thus we must deal with it.

The second part was that in my view, transparency and individual empowerment is rarely a bad thing. Half of the world is autocratic. And half of the world (not quite the same half) deals with massive structural inflation. A decentralized spreadsheet that allows individuals to store and send value can't possibly be a bad thing, unless humanity itself is totally corrupted. I then went into more detail with examples about historical war financing, and all sorts of tangible stuff. In other words, a whole chapter full of stuff. I've addressed this in some articles to.

In your view, if you had to steelman the argument as best as you could, what are the scenarios where bitcoin is *BAD* for humanity rather than good for it, on net?

I’d have to argue against markets and competition itself.

Which I do. (Not in this post)

Yet BTC is such a big improvement for humanity.

Maybe it’s a stepping stone on the path to a better system.

You said unless humanity itself is corrupt.

We aren’t, but we are so adaptable that it’s real close.

Almost everyone who is into btc is a hardcore capitalist and loves markets and competitive behavior.

Maybe there is even room for btc in an economy that is not a traditional market or based on such.

Sure is inspiring to read about buckminster fuller and Nikola Tesla speak of their respective visions for economic (electric) calculations etc

And I wonder how lowerys softwar thesis fits in with that.

Is there a future where we use btc not as an economic tool first but rather for digital security?

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I will add that I am very inspired by Peter Joseph in this regard

( he hates btc unfortunately)

And I think he does understand it.

It’s just that he is opposed to market economics as such.

I get his points.

In any case he’s extremely correct about the way humans are influenced.

That’s part of what btc is about too. Getting away from fiat mentality.

Joseph takes this much further by trying to get away from the necessarily exploitative nature of markets and competitive advantage.

I know people argue that’s how nature is. They’re correct.

However. I thought part of the point of being human is being part of a larger whole that can try to at least partially override and resist whatever nature tries to do to us.

Keyword: us

We engineer improvements.

Maybe btc is such a different kind of value-tech that the incentives are changed so drastically this money=evil way of thinking isn’t valid any more.

Sure hope so.

Maybe btc means we engineer ourselves closer to our own true nature of cooperation and love

Who's human nature ? Several indigenous cultures do not have market economies.

So even from a linear perspective where civilization has progressed from primitive to advanced societies, the true "human nature" you are referring to would be in the past or right with us now too, far away from market economies.