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matata

I've heard many ppl say dont run then on the same machine. or at least have a full b node on another.

no idea what nas etc means.

someone will help you soon™ tho, im sure

BITwise 🐳 >>= RIGHTish 2y ago

Interesting - any reason why not to run on the same machine?

I wonder if separating them by putting one on a virtual machine might be sufficient? Basically raspberry pi is too hard to come by. I might have some extra (old) laptops laying around but rather not go that route if I can help it.

NAS is network attached storage. Basically a bunch of hard drives in a shell with a special OS running various backup apps etc. It's powerful though, I can create virtual machines and basically have my own cloud storage/workspace. It's great as a plex media server too.

Thanks for your reply though, any info helps!

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matata 2y ago

oh nice, like start9

BITwise 🐳 >>= RIGHTish 2y ago

Kinda yeah. I'm not super familiar with s9 but they're more of a Sever as a Service I think? It's probably a lot morenpowerful in terms of actual power.

A NAS is primarily for backup but it's basically a low powered computer with a ton of hard drive space. So it can be used for some low latency server stuff as well. I like to use it for stuff you'd normally use Google drive for, sharing/storing archived family photos that can be accessed anywhere and permissioned, and some light streaming of totally not illegally obtained blu-ray rips.

Pleb34 2y ago

Think external hard drive but connected over the interent not usb.

Pleb34 2y ago

I asked why people suggest running them on seperate machines. I didnt get a lot of replies but it doesnt seem to be a universal thing people do. More of a personal security preference.

vtwolf⚡ 2y ago

Yes, it is preferred to have your node one its own machine to stay on at all times and separate from your daily driver.

Pleb34 2y ago

Which is your daily driver? Your lightning node or your non lightning?

BITwise 🐳 >>= RIGHTish 2y ago

Good question! I'd imagine if you have to run one of the nodes on a daily, I'd want my lightning node there. I would think security is more important on the Bitcoin node.

But that's a total conjecture on my part. I would love to hear what others with actual experience think.

Pleb34 2y ago

Thats what id think as well.

vtwolf⚡ 2y ago

Depends on what you want to do. Have one clear net node for seeding the chain data and the ⚡node on tor for some zappin

Pleb34 2y ago

Needa get mine set up for some zappin

BITwise 🐳 >>= RIGHTish 2y ago

I'd wanna do both equally tbh. Secure the network to do my part, and have fun zapping and tinkering

BITwise 🐳 >>= RIGHTish 2y ago

Oh this machine is absolutely not my daily! This was an old old machine I dug up from the back of my closet haha. I plan to keep whatever machine I'm running my nodes on completely separate from my daily pc.

Pleb34 2y ago

Oh you meant node seperate from daily driver computer for everyday use. Duh. Yeah def keep that seperate. I was talking about seperating lightning and non lightning nodes.

BITwise 🐳 >>= RIGHTish 2y ago

#[7] mentioned if you're running a bunch of apps you might have to open various ports.

Presumably, the more ports you open the bigger your security risk. Last thing you'd want is to compromise your Bitcoin node. I think setting up a separate VM for each of my lightning and Bitcoin nodes would be a decent compromise. Would also be able to solve my windows/ubuntu issue as well. Admittedly I have very little experience with Ubuntu so the VM route offers a bit of safety net I guess

Pleb34 2y ago

Yeah if i was running a bunch if apps like on umbrel id keep it seperate. Yeah i think vms are a good option.

vtwolf⚡ 2y ago

Agreed, VMS are the way to go.