Cool. It will be interesting to see how the BTC lending program roles out and what the rates are. I like the idea of never selling my BTC. It's a little vague right now but Jack said he intends to use it by taking the loan out to pay his bills as they come in. This is interesting but I don't fully understand it yet. I think that works in a bull market but maybe not so great in a bear. Jack went through it in detail on yesterdays Mailbag Monday podcast with Odell as his guest.