I buy another crypto like tether or Litecoin and then use a swapper to get monero, or I just buy it off of tradeogre

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You can buy #monero with KYC or directly with nostr:npub1j9qyxka5lck4tw50v7qfrs6gdwczz5ydt7ugqy6nhuva9p6dpy5q8rs2yg (#sepa, #card, …) and then move it to another xmr address.

Also with #haveno for fiat or in nostr:npub1yul83qxn35u607er3m7039t6rddj06qezfagfqlfw4qk5z5slrfqu8ncdu, nostr:npub1sqn6rpml88nq8khuvvneuqztfmvalpsarr8grkwy837hzdw63ajs6t5net get #bitcoin (in person, etc) and then swap it

yep, feels like this will probably be my go-to method tbh - might just buy btc kyc 🥴 but, then swap out to xmr straight away - seems like a pretty well balanced option tbh