Thank you for all the stats. Not sure where mom is but guardian livestock dogs are worth their weight in Bitcoin. If you have problems with predators don't hesitate and get a LGD. Two years living in coyote,wolf,bear,and cougar country and haven't lost one bird, (ducks and chickens free range) calf or lamb to predators. Hard to keep on a smaller property like mine (160 acres) but of the neighbors like your dogs...golden. little known fact, true LGDs don't have a predator instinct. They will not kill or eat anything that isn't already dead!