Why is monero a joke? If we are interested in using these things as money instead of fiat, what do you mean by "has no monetary value" and "losing money"?

How is zcash better? From my understanding of zcash it's run by a for profit corporation, has a founders reward that goes to them, and privacy is optional which means private transactions stand out.

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This is the price of monero with respect to BTC, you will get the same with zcash with respect to BTC.

Monero has had several security flaws that could have compromised the privacy of its users and has hidden inflation problems(snowden himself says so and snowden himself recommends zcash against monero), these problems do not have zcash, but I do not like zcash, I like its technology that can be implemented in Bitcoin.

But I'm not trying to convince anyone, everyone is free to use what he wants, if you want to use monero use monero.

Like other biased chartists you don't start the chart in 2014! Why?

Monero is forming a strong bottom based on higher lows over a multi year time span. If anything that gives you a perfect risk-reward trade setup.

What happened to buy low - sell high? Seems like some people have married their bags.

That's not much different than the fiat guys, Buffet, Rockefeller, Rothschild... who are defending to death what made them rich and powerful. Instead of becoming agnostic traders based in higher principals.

your devs are openly hostile to adding features in bitcoin. you're not going to get zcash style privacy.

There's currently no reason to believe Monero has hidden inflation. The range proof checks out. But it is possible, I'd say less possible than the trusted setup ritual in zcash being exploited, but sure, still possible.

As far as USD exchange rate, yes bitcoin outperforms it. But it still outperforms USD so far as a savings vehicle. You pick the best SoV you can, and Bitcoin is by far the best SoV, but if I'm going to engage in person to person commerce I want to keep my activity between myself and my counterparty. There's nothing out there that enables me to do that with the same guarantees and liquidity as Monero.