The Signal protocol is the best what you can get for private and secure DMs at least for now.
The only thing I don’t like about them is that they still insist on a phone number.
Don’t get me wrong. I 💜 nostr, but current client implementation of DMs are not well suited for high sensible data. It’s a killer for digital censorship and a promising contender to ensure free speech in the digital realm and that’s exactly what we need ✊💜
Signal-like encryption in a nostr client would be cool. I wouldn’t use the current system for anything serious.
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Aren't DMs encrypted tho? I know that one can see who you are DM'ing with by using someone else's pub-key but not the content itself? (Agree that this is in itself not private).
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Yes! They are also supposedly adding that to twitter too.
i run a matrix server on a i5600k cpu with 16Gb ram and raid5 ssd for data. as OS i use #eos033 from #start9.
now all the communication with friends and family goes over my server.
eos033 is only missing the clearnet version. onion net gets sometimes very slow!
Nice one! #followed 🫡
Have you heard anyone talking about ephemeral relays yet? I haven’t but it’s a concept that keeps coming to mind when I think about properly private messaging.
The idea being could you spin up a relay (somewhere safe) that would only live for the length of the conversation and only be accessible by the parties.
That could be cool. A short TTL container that spins up with a random relay and sets it for both parties with a specified duration for a "secret" conversation
When the TTL expiry is up, the container is shut down and all data wiped, with the secret conversation ceasing to exist. With some automation, I could see it being done.
Yeah – I haven't thought through the implementation (and it's obviously limited by how much you want to trust the infra provider where the relay lives) but it's a fun idea.
True, but if encrypted, shouldn't be able to decrypt.
The hardest part would be client integration. I can easily right a script to spin up new relays with random endpoint.
But configuring a client to allow setting PMs to using only the revolving relays would be troublesome.
That said, you could probably bake in all the rotating relays behind a single proxy endpoint like with this https://github.com/Dolu89/nostr-proxy
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Only use the most secure messenger!
Check:
www.securemessagingapps.com
Rate the security:
🟩 = 3
🟨 = 1
🟥 = 0
Results:
1. Threema = 82 = the most secure one
2. Session = 79
3. Signal = 77
4. Element / Matrix = 59
5. WhatsApp = 34
6. Telegram = 29
7. Apple iMessage = 25
8. Facebook Messenger =25
