Nostr Web Client

They do, but no one watches it.

It's kind of like posting a podcast in a kind 1 note, right? No one is going to stop their scrolling to go listen to a podcast. However, if they are opening up their podcast app and see that someone they already follow shared a podcast out that they had never heard of, they may check it out there.

There's also not really a graceful way to encourage folks to share podcasts or videos they really liked as a different kind from a kind 1 focused client. That means most users are just going to share that content in kind 1 because it's the least friction way to do so.

Hence having a separate client that aggregates a feed of that specific type of content shared in kind 1 notes for when you do want to kick back and watch some videos would be useful.

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fiatjaf 1y ago

If the podcast is a Nostr event you are already listening to the podcast on a Nostr client capable of dealing with podcasts, so you share it from there.

Dikaios1517 1y ago

Sure, but that's a major "if." Most podcasting 2.0 apps don't even have Nostr integration yet. Just nostr:nprofile1qqsx2wyjt6lmvc05rrvv05r5hm3w3t7h0pcpmkyswrpd4ymd2u09tscpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduq3kamnwvaz7tmwdaehgu339e682mnwv4k8xct5wvhxxmmdqywhwumn8ghj7mn0wd68yttsw43zuam9d3kx7unyv4ezumn9wscn3xgh, though they probably have a substantial marketshare of those already on Nostr.

fiatjaf 1y ago

What do you mean by "a major if"? If the thing you're sharing is not a Nostr event then you have no other way besides sharing a link in a kind:1, so you will share a link in a kind:1, there is no discussion there.

My point is that if you're sharing Nostr-native content that isn't short text notes then you should share those as the correct kind and optionally quote them in a kind:1.

Vitor Pamplona 1y ago

It's hard to imagine how sharing in a different kind would scale to different apps.

Let's say, I have follows on Amethyst, on my Blog and on Olas. They are different follows. One sees my kind 1s, the other my kind 20s.

If I want to share the podcast, I might want to share with both. For Amethyst, I need to prepare a short post. For my Blog, I need to write a little longer and provide more content. For Olas, I need to prepare a picture that would say the same thing.

If there is a TikTok-like app, then I need a video of me inviting people to the podcast. Or maybe a way to quickly make a video clip out of the podcast with my Olas picture + the podcast audio.

It's going to be hard for Fountain to offer sharing on all of these different types of media. And the amount of options will grow over time.

Dikaios1517 1y ago

Yeah, that definitely does not scale.

I don't think we really see users trying to do that kind of maximization of their possible reach, though, either. When a user listens to a podcast they like, they are generally going to just share it in a kind 1 with a link to the podcast and call it good.

The actual podcast creators might try to share it out in as many event kinds as they can, so that users on various clients focused on other content types will see it, too. I could foresee creators posting long-form notes with the transcripts and a link to the audio, or including a link to the audio podcast in the description of the video version, etc. I don't think Fountain would need to pull those kinds into its feed, which is just meant to be seeing what podcasts your followers have been recommending, though. Just pulling in kind 1 notes with links to podcasts is enough for that context.

lost1256 1y ago

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Dikaios1517 1y ago

That's the beautiful thing. Kind 1 clients don't have to if they don't want. They can just show the URL and you can click it to open in another app, and devs who think it would be nice to have show in the feed, or devs making clients for that specific type of content, can develop their app so the content is rendered appropriately.