The empire can fall and society can go on.
I stole this quote from Wikipedia just because it defines societal collapse succinctly.
“Societal collapse is the fall of a complex human society characterized by the loss of cultural identity and of social complexity as an adaptive system, the downfall of government, and the rise of violence.”
The Roman Empire fell but the societies it encompassed continued and in many cases flourished.
Agreed, but the Roman society itself collapsed before the empire fell. All societies within it that did not collapse were not Roman based.
Excuse me? I will need examples.
I do have a feeling that you are going to talk about the changing values of Roman society that you can roughly breakdown based on the time periods of certain emperors. Changing values of a society does not equate societal collapse.
Changing values are what leads to societal collapse, though
As old world crumble when standing on the sure of the new worlds new found land.
No. The values can change but a relatively stable culture and society still exist. To equate changing societal values to societal collapse is a bit like equating a chapter ending with the end of a book. Societal values tend to change slowly, with the changes noticed more after they have occurred than in the transition. While an extreme and quick shift in societal values could bring about a quick societal collapse. Something like that would also likely coincide with other causes of societal collapse like war, a natural disaster, famine, pestilence. The insistence that a societies values do not change can also lead to societal collapse.
