they are still around. Have you tried bisq or hodl hodl? I find bisq to be a superier experience to all the others. the others seemed to have uniqe conditions for every offer, each peer with their own rules and process. Bisq uses consensus like bitcoin...all traders have to follow the same rules.

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I’ve used bisq myself. You mentioned Hodlhodl suicided. Didn’t know what you meant.

sorry i meant to say localbitcoins...plus they ended up being KYC...pure garbage...there are many copy cats like HODLHODL, localswap, etc....i am sticking to bisq...bitcoin network, consensus, escrow, no KYC...never had a trade fail.