Hot take for Nostr: the claim that all plants are dangerous to eat doesn't make logical sense.

Yes, even edible plants may produce compounds that are toxic. Every toxin is toxic in its own particular way. The body is a complex system; sometimes a chemical may benefit the body in one way while detracting from it in another. Sometimes a compound may only be toxic in certain concentrations or health conditions. Sometimes a toxin is quickly broken down in digestion and has no ill effect.

Even without that level of nuance, the belief that all plants are unsafe to eat doesn't make logical sense when you look at the animal kingdom and human history. Obligate herbivores, like cows, live their whole lives eating nothing but plants in perfect health. This should not be possible if plants are unsafe to eat because of their toxins.

You can tell which animals are naturally carnivores, omnivores, or herbivores by studying their teeth. Humans have omnivore teeth, and despite enormous variation, almost all human cultures have omnivorous diets -- yes, including nomads that get held up as the hunters living under a theoretically perfect meat-based diet. They are called hunter-gatherers because they gather (forage) as well. The closest culture I know of to living carnivore, the Inuit, still ate vegetable matter like berries at the rare times when they could.

Clearly, meat is health-giving for most people. Some can live well (but do we know for how long?) on a diet of meat alone. Carnivore and other high-meat diets are documented to have corrected serious health issues in many individuals.

I'm just suggesting to the more aggressively carnivore: take a step back and a deep breath, because you are coming across very arrogantly. Your diet may not be ideal for every individual, and to insist that it is because plants are toxic does not reflect the broader perspective I've touched on above.

There's no call to get rude about dietary choices. Save that anger for tyrants who want to be your master.

#diet #carnivore #thoughts #grownostr

I will cycle keto, but I cant ever seem to stick to strict carnivore. Plus, I have questions about the liver's ability to process hormones esp estrogen through the colon without fiber, and as a woman excess estrogen is no bueno so I will eat my healthy carbs thankyouverymuch lol. Interesting to consider in light if low info voter's comment about liver health in carnivores.

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It’s not so much liver health as liver capability. Obligate carnivores have low capability livers. Chicken or the egg; they don’t need to filter out many plant toxins and they cannot.

Ah, I see. Still makes me wonder as estrogen goes through phase 1 and 2 detox so would the liver be less capable in that regard too in carnivores.

Now we’re in territory I know nothing about πŸ˜… I’ve never thought much about how estrogen is β€œretired” in any species, but I’m very curious now!

Welcome to the rabbit hole πŸ˜‚πŸ«‚πŸ’œ