This is a great interview! I was with Grinder back in the GAW Mining days and GetHashing. Colored coins were so fun to play with. We all made our own colored coin contracts and we were all inspired by Grinder and the others that started GetHashing. I had a mining token I was was making for artists. Grinder was one of my mentors at the time and a good friend even to this day. Fun times and a good group. Innovative times just playing with money lol.