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Lol Jews only arrived on the scene AFTER Ishmael was born, and Sarah gave birth at 90.. to Issac, so yeah they aren't that old at all.

Sumerians, Mesopotamia etc. (modern day Iraq) all existed prior to a single Jew ever existing.

Abraham left to colonise Canaan, who at the time already housed the Filastines, who are the decendants of the sea people after they were defeated by the Egyptians in the Nile Delta.

In fact, the Sea People's brought about the collapse of the Bronze Age, and by then Abraham was still a pipe dream.

Mî¢h&|3 Dëgli Ü3ę®tį 3mo ago

... you missed the 'still around here' part of my post. 😜

Those you mentioned were great and super-ancient civilizations/cultures (love them) but have been buried by the sands of history long time ago.

Saying that an Egyptian today belongs to the same civ. of Ancient Egyptians is like saying that given that I'm Italian, I'm an heir of the Roman Empire. No way. Not even his/my genes has/have a lot of Egyptian/Roman roots.

Ancient Egypt lasted as its own distinct civ/culture until the late paleochristian era at most, but already then it was already mainly eaten by the ellenestic/roman civ. Arabs did the rest.

On the contrary there is no complete interruption in the cultural continuity of judaism until today. Love them or hate them, it's a historical fact. That said, we could dispute whether Ashkenazi Jews were Khazarians or direct descendants of the 12 tribes..😬

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S!ayer 3mo ago

Oh I see what you mean, but then in that case Ishmael's decendants would be older?

Ethiopian and Sudanese too.

Jews are still quite young in terms of Isaacs lineage.

i always had the idea that the Khazarians were part of the 2 tribes that were either cast out or absorbed. It was 14 tribes, that became 12 due to them being cast out due to backwards rituals like human sacrifice and other weird shit

Mî¢h&|3 Dëgli Ü3ę®tį 3mo ago

First part.

Interesting pov, if we hold the tannakh/Old Testament sources as historically/demographically 'truish', you are probably right.

Second part.

From what i know, Khazarians were converted to judaism much much later on by unidentified semitic jewish merchants/migrants coming from the caucasus. Until then they were a nomadic/tribal turkish animistic people from central asian steppes settled among eastern ukraine, the north caucasus and the caspian region.

Mî¢h&|3 Dëgli Ü3ę®tį 3mo ago

this conversion occurred in the early middle ages.