So if these new ones had ships and guns it'd be fine?

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If they came with ships and guns, at least we’d call it what it is: a war. Obviously they didn’t do that. So no, it wouldn’t be fine. It’d just be less pathetic than what we’re doing now.

Honest question: If we’ve forgotten who we are, what exactly are we defending?

politicians generally find a scapegoat for their failings.

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