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nostr:npub1getal6ykt05fsz5nqu4uld09nfj3y3qxmv8crys4aeut53unfvlqr80nfm I was checking my account for info on Alby Hub and just noticed this about the free custodial wallet sunsetting soon. Do you have any additional info on when you plan to sunset that service? Does that mean all users will need to either self-host or pay 21k says a month to use Alby wallet services? Wondering what to expect and when. Thanks 🤙

We are slowly rolling out Alby Hub and new services. We're also working on proper announcements (we're still better at computer code than at human language 😉 )

Alby Hub runs everywhere and we make it easy for everyone to run it. And we will also offer a paid cloud service for it.

The screenshots that your user already sees there are WIP and subject to change - and we build in the open there 😉

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Thanks for the response! I was mostly just wondering about the timeline for the sunsetting of the custodial service and what onboarding new users looks like in the absence of that. I sent an invite to someone last night and then spent the day responding to questions about self custody and channels and liquidity. That’s a much different experience for a new user than the previous custodial option, and changes how I would incorporate Alby into my orange pilling. Totally understand the tradeoffs between custody and self-custody.

yeah, it's not as smooth as it should be, yet. (which is also why we're still a bit hesitant with invites)

And people will be confronted with owning keys in the future - which I think is a good and important thing. Something to celebrate even :)

New users will get on the self-sovereign Alby Hub. Existing users have the choice but slowly upgrade.

Thanks for taking the time to explain! Excited for what you guys are doing and making self custody easier. The one concern I have is that losing the custodial service means losing yet another good option for exposing new users to Lightning who aren’t ready or capable of self hosting, and who may not use it enough or have enough bitcoin to justify the monthly fee. In the big picture it’s great to have more self-custodial options, but need to look for other solutions for that initial orange pilling.

yes, we will see what the future will allow there.

but also think of a shared node, or embedded mints, etc. would you invite people to get started with your node for example?

I'm not even sure I understand🤔 will my free wallet stop working? Do I empty my wallet now? I have no idea lol

it keeps on working and will get better :)

you will have the option to upgrade to Alby Hub which is the upcoming self-sovereign wallet.

but everything keeps working as it is.