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I'm pretty good at JavaScript, been working with it for years. I've limited it down to only using functions (no classes), constants (no let's no vars). Building a frontend or some services works well at the end of the day.

Worst thing that I hate is setting up a project and all the tools around it.

Out of my ignorance, cause I dont know so good any other language. Why are people hating js?

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What I hate is exactly what you mentioned. There's a whole ecosystem of bad frameworks and your job is to find the least bad one. For me it's react/typescript/webpack etc. it took me so long to hack it together. I think I may have actually cried at one point.

Oh, yes. Nobody loves that.

But these days TSC/esbuild are working decently. And nextjs took away a lot of this pain as well for the frontends

So glad it's not just me. I've programmed for decades, and the only programming language that I can remember making me legit feel like shedding tears and giving up is JavaScript.