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Really good discussion. The spam issue is still worth talking about and will remain so indefinitely because it's really about fundamental rifts between bitcoin stakeholders. So I'm sympathetic to Tomer's weariness of the topic, but thank you both for slogging through it anyway. The discussion should continue. More battles are on the horizon I think that will fall along the same fault line.

https://fountain.fm/episode/HiBPL8bQhcC4iZ3uEStL

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Bitcoin Infinity Media 1mo ago

Thanks for listening! It is indeed a complicated topic. The war rages on.

Cykros 1mo ago

The spam issue does need addressing.

BIP 444 is like trying to do so as ineffectively as possible while also being sure to do plenty of collateral damage for good measure.

I'm resting somewhat easier knowing libbitcoin v4 is just around the corner and with no utxo set maintained and a different model of mempool it does do a bit of an end run around the damage caused by spam for many.

That said, it's not fit to be the majority implementation, and at some point we need to do something to defend the utxo set. I think it'll need to be both simpler and more effective than 444 -- something perhaps like removing the segwit discount and incentivizing it going somewhere else, be that op_return or preferably off chain entirely. But I don't remotely think the effective solution has been proposed yet, and the tribalism is exhausting.