When is it plagiarism?
Is intellectual property not a thing anymore?
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Never was in modern sense.
It's invention of corporations to have enormous amounts of money for nothing.
This bothers me so much. It's a question of ethics and this argumentation just ignores that. Yes, taking somebody's work's copy and making use of it while disregarding the author of it is stealing.
Honestly people ignoring this are the ones who never really created original work themselves. Go write a song, or a book, paint something, create a unique program. And then watch somebody else earn money from it while investing none of your lost resources.
Lol you telling this to open source devs is the epitome of irony 😂
We’re all copying Twitter. I spent a year designing things hoping people copy them 🤣
We are all a product of our past experiences. Therefore, every idea is copyright infringement.
Imagine Johannes Lippius was able to copywrite musical chords in 1612.
Copying is a poster child for getting something for nothing. Profiteering is not in the sole domain of nameless corporations.
Product development doesn't just fucking happen. It's an invention for people who want to live in a civilized society where investors and innovators aren't just sacrificial animals who get no reward for their effort.
You can't compete with someone who gets the benefit of your labor without bearing any of the cost for it.
The mental gymnastics to justify stealing is quite incredible.
The only thing wrong with plagiarism is pretending you made it yourself. Copy and give credit.
I agree. I just wanted the point of giving credit emphasized.
There is no such thing as intellectual property outside of stuff you keep secret. Once you put it out in public it is no longer property. It’s plagiarism when you claim to be the original creator of the exact thought and you’re not. Plagiarism is an academic/reputation/moral issue, not a criminal issue.
I think we have a practical problem. It’s just a gut feeling, so forgive me if I bungle my argument. If anything I write and post on nostr instantly becomes public it no longer matters who published it, because it can be copied endlessly and I can’t stop it. If we don’t care about authorship, then why bother with identity? If identity doesn’t matter, why do we insist on signing everything? I think this issue is important for creators.
I think we care about authorship/identity because we care about reputation/trustworthiness. The original organizer of good ideas will be who people seek out when they have new questions. People who copy (including AIs) will only be able to answer with summaries of already answered questions.
I keep coming back to reputation as well. It just seems fragile. Maybe it’s supposed to be.
I also think it’s better to post into a public void and be aware that you are basically giving the words away, than posting on centralized platforms, where there are miles of legal text of what will and won’t be done with your content which is then changed on a whim anyway. I just think we haven’t quite wrapped our heads around the fact that nostr is in fact a public square.
Thanks !