Imagine its one thousand years from now, what will the historians of the day say was the cause of the fall of the American Empire? 🤔

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The what now?

The inevitable decline of human government structures, bureaucracy and civil society through self-weakening success.

Survive for long enough and the younger generations loses sight of their origins, values and goals.

I think additional bereaucracy is the decline of government structures. If you want a strong civil society and perhaps even government you need to keep the bureaucracy light and nimble. Capable of dealing with sudden changes and not overburdening the population.

I never took you for a conservative, Autumn 😁 No wonder we get along.

Currency debasement and ethical decline

I hear currency debasement has been the declining factor in a few civilisations, states and empires. So it's a believable answer... How does ethical decline fit in?

It enabled the currency debasement, also enabled the runaway debt due to overspending on unethical things such as war, nanny state, Intel complex. It's a feedback loop. This then began to permeate many segments off society because of embracing of the lack of ethics by academia. They replaced ethics with relativistic fake morals.

That checks out actually.

It's gonna be something really stupid that no one suspected could ever be the straw the broke the camel's back.

Such as...?

I dunno. But look at the mess that got kicked off over the dark of George Floyd. His death was sad and stupid. But something similar to that.

What caused the rise of the American Empire?

IMO classical liberalism (government intentionally reducing its scope and enforcing something like common law) birthed the British and American prosperity (industrial might and technological progress) that led one and then the other to become empires. In the case of the Brits, much of their empire was formed while still basically liberal and superior organizational structures were imparted to the colonized regions, especially Singapore and Hong Kong which became fabulously wealthy.

In the case of the Americans, liberalism was gradually abandoned and the Americans instead coasted to world dominance on the back of technological and industrial power. The most successful US vassals (Germany and Japan) were the earliest in US conquest (ie while the US was still relatively liberal) and the most developed beforehand. Japan for example has very strong protections for private property in its constitution, which has led to Tokyo being among the most-affordable megacities in the world. The least successful US vassals (Ukraine, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc) are those least developed and upon whom nothing resembling classical liberalism was imposed.

If there is nothing exceptional about the middle part of North America (or the Potomac river in particular) why should the people there be the world hegemons?

All the other answers are good answers.

But actual, published, historians of the future will likely frame it around whatever political concern of the day they have.

Men wearing socks, perhaps.

Or the disrespect shown to early versions of the God Machine.

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