On a similar note, how does one measure the LTV, or the value-to-growth ratio of other protocols?

Seems like applications would have better conceptual approaches to measuring and defining success.

Looking at the protocol level for metrics of success is a lot harder when the protocol doesn't aim to be entirely public.

All metrics are gameable.

With Bitcoin we have never had much of a perfect picture of value either. Value is perspective-based. Individually determined.

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Definitely. Value can be much better defined and specified on the client level than on the protocol.

On the protocol - maybe active & returning npubs having repeatedly more than single type of engagement signals...

My point is more conceptual, you can always draw some sort of this schema for any tool or product:

*it's from this product development keynote "The alchemy and science of product metrics" - personal favorite recommendation for PMs; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPT28IGDP_M

Good points. But still.

Same problem, different frame. How to determine “lifetime value” Metrics for Nostr protocol?…

LOL … dude doesn’t quite understand “high risk”.

Lol, yea. Smart, but not humble = hfsp.