You make a compelling argument about charging for the use of HTLCs. There's definitely some protocol work to enable this use case more widely.

I think with the rising price of bitcoin the value of payments on LN will increase and there will be a use for non-custodial async payments. It is super niche today but will become more necessary in time. So thank you for pushing the tech forward. I also think there will always be demand for custodial payments that have to make less engineering trade-offs and can deliver a better UX. This is a much much bigger market IMO.

What *I* find cool is imagining how to scale up privacy tech to the rest of humanity who are (let's be honest) never gonna give a shit about the cypherpunk ideals of bitcoin. I want to offboard enough people from fiat to degrade and destroy that system and move the whole world to a better system. I think ecash is perhaps the most promising new tech in this regard. I am keenly watching the development of covenants and payment pool proposals. If that effort goes well it could obsolete a lot of what we're talking about in this thread.

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