Normies with a strong need to protect their social brand might consider it if it's easy enough.

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Sure, but that’s a very small group of potential nostr users. I’m just wondering out loud if that’s a good use of the nostr development energy right now. Niche solution for a niche set of users vs. building things that every nostr user will actually use (and is needed for them to even consider using nostr).

Yeah, but if you're going to be hacking around with seedsigners anyway, why not direct that effort towards nostr?

I assume clients will need to add support for these workflows (scanning QR codes generated by SeedSigners) I guess it doesn’t touch relays (where IMHO we are lacking dev hours right now).

Matter of weighing up bang for buck. I’d imagine it’s not a huge amount to implement in the client.

That’s true. If it really just is “scan 1 QR code, parse it, use as private key”, then not a big deal.

I’m assuming that’s how it works. Although not sure delegate keys can be revoked if even those get into the wrong hands …?

“Bang for the buck” is `NaN` in most cases due to denominator sadness.

I know it’s just a turn of phrase, but any talk of things like “optimal use of dev resources” and whatnot is just corporate mindset being inappropriately applied to FOSS.

I think I disagree about this mindset being inappropriately applied to FOSS. Scarcity is a natural reality that cannot be ignored regardless of context. At every level, we’re wired to think about risk/reward, bang/buck, time preference. FOSS should aim to foster enthusiasm from contributors, of course. At the same time, the most successful FOSS projects have a centralized “plan” of some kind that defines what they want the outcomes to look like, and maintainers decide which initiatives to prioritize and when. The NIPs embody this to some extent.

I agree. I mean more that outside of the lead maintainers and the vision/focus they bring, it’s a little hopeless to try to drive the direction/attention of developers.

In 2019 Stepan Snigirev was solely focused on Specter Desktop as a QR-based wallet coordinator. USB hardware wallet support was nowhere near the top of his roadmap (maybe not even on it). But I really wanted to be able to use Specter w/my usb wallets. So I just did my own thing and PRed support for them in. That ended up helping propel Specter Desktop into prominence in the early days before Sparrow came about.

If Stepan (being the lead maintainer) had said that he definitively did NOT want usb hww support, I would’ve dropped the idea.

But if anyone else had said, “Meh, I’m happy with Specter as being QR-only; you’re wasting your time,” I would have disregarded them and built it anyway.

I dunno, people use 2FA devices like Yubikeys to lock down their social media accounts. There’s a need for this.