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You bring up a good example of why the situation is so complex/fraught/hard to untangle. To answer your question honestly, it would entirely depend on who launders it.

Of course, if the leader of a country in crisis is stealing foreign aid for themselves (see numerous examples referenced in nostr:npub1trr5r2nrpsk6xkjk5a7p6pfcryyt6yzsflwjmz6r7uj7lfkjxxtq78hdpu's Hidden Repression), I would have a lot less sympathy for that leader (but no less for the country’s citizens).

I haven’t seen anything that’s convinced me this is what’s happening here; doesn’t mean it’s not, but it doesn’t seem that way. Money going missing can disappear at any number of steps along the way, and when full-scale military operations are involved, it’s much more likely that the pockets being lines belong to those close to the bullet printer. Maybe that’s the US/international military industrial complex. Maybe it’s corrupt American politicians with corrupt Ukrainian counterparts.

If there is some good investigative journalism that has followed those missing funds, I’m always willing to be wrong. (Note I only said “I haven’t seen”). But in absence of that, listening to the little inner voice that feels what’s right (with pretty good accuracy if my mind can become quiet enough), it doesn’t feel like a black and white “war for the sake of money laundering” situation. Too many people are dying for that, and while you’re right that it’s a complex situation, it’s still a fact that one guy decided to blow up the other guy’s city. There has been conflict - territorial, cultural, etc. - for a long time, but Zelenskyy didn’t one day decide to send tanks and troops to kill a bunch of Russian civilians. On some level, when it comes to judging these kinds of things, it can sometimes help to limit contextual considerations (because it’s always used for propaganda on both sides) and just ask what happened.

Appreciate you asking harder questions 🫂

Yah, I think we're going to disagree and that's ok.

I don't see the origin of the war or the $$ trail in the same way but appreciate you stepping back and taking the thought exercise. Also acknowledge I don't have perfect information.

Cheers 🫂

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It sure is 🤝 I’ll be honest, I don’t know what to believe re: missing funds. I have certainly gained an appreciation of the historical context with regard to territory, but I’m also painfully aware that Russia/KGB are the most adept propaganda/disinformation/psy-op masters, and they’ve been working on us for decades. It’s hard to know what to believe when it comes to the nuance, so I kind of feel like I’m reduced to basing it off “who is killing whom?”