The new Nostr Nests will still allow users to just listen to a Nest without having a set of Nostr keys. However, if users wish to participate, if they want to be social by text or by voice chatting, they'll need to create an account via the nsecBunker workflow or sign in with a NIP-07 browser extension.

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I'm happy about this, sometimes I want to just chill and listen but I get added to the stage or I want to say something without actually going on air. Thanks

You'll also be able to listen via certain Nostr clients like Amethyst, Nostrudel, Snort, etc.

Awesome, thanks 🙏

Do you guys run corny chat too?

No.

H Y P E

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I may need a hype song for release day 👀

Oh man oh man…

I think I know a guy! 😬🤣🫡🤙

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When is it going to be available for testing? 😁

Later this month. Soooo! Tell your Brazilian friends!

how in the heck do access nests on amethyst client?

The same way you aceess streaming video, from the live tab. #soon

Essentially forcing folks who use amethyst, to use a whole new client to partake?

As time goes on, the less I'm able to do with these kinds of changes happening to everything...🤷

I do not want to use another client or app just to use nests, badges, etc.

Then don't use another client. You'll be able to use Amethyst to listen and text chat just fine.

I mean I understand it's me, and folks don't want me to participate in their nests anyways.... but come on...what about the other people? What about new people?

You basically said it yourself that amethyst users would not be able to actually use nests other than to type or listen....

Amethyst users are Nostr users. They don't need to create Nostr keys. They already are on Nostr. This would be for someone visiting the website.

So I won't need to use nip07 to create a nest?

Im finding Nip07 excludes many mobile only users from using nostr things. There's an app for everything. We don't wanna use another one just to fully use all nostr features/ services. Always a big hurdle when teaching new folks....

"Ugh, I've already just installed 2.... another just to manage my badges I recieve? 😑"

"Well you could just always use Kiwi..."

"I don't like it"

"Yeah, me either."

🤷

At first you will have to use a web browser that supports NIP-07 or sign in with nsecBunker to create a Nest. Listening and text chat is different and will work without extra work. Eventually, I'd like to have clients use the Nest API to create them, but that's not launching just yet.

Ugh.

Its clunky but mobile web works with nests. with an API someone can then create a pwa client.

I can relate to this, clients are closing options to join in and only allowing some login abstraction and disregarding the basic protocol. It's starting to look like classical websites. A client should always give an option to insert nsec imo. The same goes for zaps, some clients only allow NWC zapping which means having something like Alby, to zap you would only need any LN wallet.

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Never enter your NSEC into a web client. Always use NIP-07 extension.

Let users choose, you can put a warning, Coracle it uses nip07 by default, otherwise nsec. Nip07 you have to trust the extension, you can also trust a specific web client, i can be using a burner nsec. Also if you open the web client in mobile there aren't many signers for mobile, what will clients require next for safety reasons, 2FA? I don't think we should treat users like children and decide what we think it's best for them, let them know the options and risks and decide.

Imagine bitcoin mobile wallets not allowing you to insert a private key, you could only receive or broadcast a previously signed tx by an hardware wallet.

But how to do that on an Android phone?

I think there is a signer app called Amber. But never used it.

I have seen it somewhere, but it looked like nobody uses it.

There is text chat ?

When amber integration?

Can't wait to test it, nice job 😎👍

Looking good!