> Unfortunately the USA was usurped without a shot fired in 1789.
I wonder how many understand this. Good points.
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Only a fraction of those that paid attention understand that what was lost.
Then and now, more so now.
They called it weak but that was what could have made it stronger in the long term.
Would be an interesting alternative history novel if nothing else.
Starting with the possibility of Native tribal “states”, no civil war, different outcomes for southern and northern borders. Not to mention western territories and involvement in “world wars“.
I could honestly see a larger present day union in more than just North America.
In some respects the European Union is closer to our original intention after independence than we are today.
Yeah, I've read how that when Jefferson received a copy of the draft US Constitution while he was away in Paris he was shocked by it. He thought only a few changes needed to be made to the Articles of Confederation, which was the current constitution at the time, and actually ensured more freedom.
Some interesting counterfactual history you propose there, and possibly a lot more peaceful.
It's true that European nations still retain more of their sovereignty while in the EU than do American states, and their people still think of themselves in terms of their individual nations; but of course history and different languages and cultures help in that regard. I was pleased to see that the UK was allowed to peacefully secede from Europe, despite the fact they did not allow the American colonies to peacefully secede a couple of centuries ago. Perhaps sometimes lessons are learned from history.
Good chat.
Always an interesting thought experiment to muse over past mistakes/failures and apply ideas to future choices.
Too bad those that make the big mistakes are more likely to double down than put in the work required to correct course.